Wednesday 28 December 2011

about the Apostles

While we are all called to prophecy the whole bible is full of prophecies, its not only for certain people, but we do not all have the office of a Prophet, just as we all are not all Pastors, teachers, evangelists, apostles, elders.. if you are not called specially by God to these offices you are and will be false, an imposter.. undeniably as well http://pbulow.tripod.com/struct.html
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In reality even these days many Christians SADLY themselves have never studied what the Bible actually says about these God given, Holy Spirit equipped, gifted men, offices to the Christian Church Universal by God, so they too are ignorant, they do not know, they are even confused about the role that they all should play today in Christ’s Church. Because they often wrongfully leave it to others to read the Bible for them too they thus are too easily deceived by the imposters, cults, sects, wolves in sheep clothing, false teachers, false prophets, false elders too.

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For we know that in the Church of Christ there were more than just the 12 original apostles.. An Apostle is a calling, who job description is being the senior father of the church, he is generally the, an original church starter, he is the equivalent today of a Missionary, and he or she tends to have all, note all of the gifts of the Holy spirit. Apostle are generally characterized by the much persecutions and sufferings they bear too.. One generally tends to work one way up in the church and the last administrative position is the Apostle.. the job below the apostle are the prophets who are often found in the company of apostles, and generally below the prophets are the pastors -teachers who take the advice from the Prophets.. many pastor teachers deny the existence of apostles, prophets cause they are in sin and falsely refuse to submit to their authorities.. Some pastors today actually function in the role of an Apostle, but do not use the title.. and the elders are made up of the local pastors teachers, prophets, apostles.. there are women apostles.. such as Junia (Rom 16:7 KJV) Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me... and women prophetess (by the way Apostle and prophets can be divorcees.. while pastor teachers cannot..) Evangelists is a separate gifted persons to the church, also one of the elders, generally has a healing or miracles gifts, tend to travel from church to church, city while missionaries tend to be fixed.. Generally in the local Church the apostle is referred to as an elder.. as are the prophets, pastor teachers, evangelists.. Now as to a ruling elder, the church administrator, the Bishop...an apostle, he tends to be responsible for a specific flock of churches in the geographical area.. he is the the most senior original apostle or his gifted appointee. God selects and equips the church leaders, the church confirms it.. The New Testament office of an Apostle supposedly also had no parallel for sure in the Old Testament and I would agree that a more valid Biblical definition of an "Apostle is a matured Holy Spirit anointed Christian person who has experienced all the gifts of the Holy Spirit... in other words he the Apostle has also personally had functioned in the role of prophet, pastor, teacher, evangelist, miracle worker, healer, giver, helper.. etc., and that was why they have been given such importance in their roles now too. Mind you that is a general definition, the original 12 Apostles and Apostle Paul do not fully meet this criteria
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Mat 10:1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease. 2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother; 3 Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus; :4 Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.
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So note that Judas one of the 12 original apostles, the bad apostle was even next replaced, by number 13 Mattias, and even Apostle Paul was added and many others too.. so you are clearly cannot merely stay on one chapter of the bible and omit the rest given you.
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Apostles and prophets are the two foundational pillar in the body of Christ where those who are called to stand in this office are given a specific divine apostolic and prophetic task and mandate to equip the saints for the work of ministry.
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(Ephesian 4:11) Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
Eph 4:16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
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Therefore let no man glory in men, For all things are yours; Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Peter, or the world, or life, or death, or things present or things to come; all are yours; and ye are Christ's and Christ is God's" I Corinthians 3;21-23
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‎"For I speak unto you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office." Romans 11;13 the 14 th apostle Paul was a servant and bond-man of the churches, not only in word but in deed, as the Book of Acts and his own writings make very clear. If you want to learn the truth you need to hmble yourself before God now too
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As for did you know there was only 12 Apostles all together and they are all dead, is false, clearly now a statement made by one who does not know the Bible..I know the truth. Go read the whole new testament with an open mind and tell us the truth as to what it says there about the Apostles, prophets, cause you clearly show you ignorance of it.. for the new testament.Other Apostles mentioned in the New Testament included Barnabas, Andronicus and Junia, Silas, Timothy, Apollos Read the new testament for yourself and see the truth here. Even Apostle Paul was no 14, and the Greek word for Apostle is one sent, a Missionary , a persons who manifests all the gifts of the Holy Spirit, and it is an ongoing gift of God, Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ to the church.. note the tense in Ephesians 4:11 is continual present.. meaning Christ keeps on giving to the church these gifted men.. and note this Junia is a women Apostle.. (Rom 16:7 KJV) Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me. According to this scripture,clearly Andronicus and Junia were also apostles apart from Paul,Barnabas
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Some people seem amazed that God can, and will now speak to his children and tell them the truth, given the proper conditions being met, but me I am often amazed how is it that so many people cannot hear God, as to what un-confessed, un-repented of sins are obstructing their relationship with him now him?
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One makes a very false selfish, self centered approach, kingdom of self approach, when they do judge others by your own life and standard and not by God's truth.. For always God is much greater over your small definition of what he can and cannot do today for Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.. so is his provision for his true chosen leaders, saints.. By the way it is generally understood, agree that the listing Apostles, Prophets, pastors teachers is a hierarchical order, mean the others submit to the one above.. of course the rebels in the ministry will deny all of that since they falsely do try to say they give an account to no one, not even to Christ it seems.. or the body of Christ. Rightfully divide the word of truth firstly.. It is undeniable that most even professing Christians do hold many truths that are in reality untrue, and not even supported by the Bible, the New Testament and why is that?even cause they do not read the bible for themselves, spend less than 5 minutes per day in the Bible, falsely rely on second hand knowledge, the words of others as to what they say the Bible says.Some errors are minor but many are major ones Of course the devil is behind much of this still too. Now if persons, preacher he is ignorant of the truth.. about even the number of Apostles today.. he is still blind leading the blind.. How is it God doesn't speak to him and show him yet these even undeniable basic truths.. he listen thus to what men tells him over God.. So when will he the journey with God in full, or are is he still still lost, lost in the wilderness? still in un-confessed, un-repented sins, self centered, selfishly doing his own thing. Trying wrongfully to do it in his own strength. The unacceptable rebellious sin of pride is generally being self centered, selfish oriented. It also tends to be the Rebels who leave out the apostles, and prophets from the church these days as well..
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