Sunday 22 January 2012

TONGUES IS NOT FOR BELIEVERS?


INTRODUCTION
PRAY PERFECT PRAYERS IN THE SPIRIT :

Romans 8:27 - Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Wouldn’t you like to pray effective prayers that are always in line with the will of God and which always hit the mark? Well, when you pray in the Spirit, you can.

You see, when we pray in English or our known language, and according to our limited understanding, we can pray amiss. Sometimes, our heads get in the way and we find ourselves asking, “Isn’t it selfish of me to pray like this?” or “Am I praying in line with God’s will?”

My friend, that is why God gives us the gift of praying in tongues. When we pray in tongues or in the Holy Spirit, we can never pray out of God’s will because the Holy Spirit “makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God”.

In other words, we pray perfect prayers in line with God’s will when we pray in tongues. And the Bible goes on to tell us that “if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. And if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we have asked of Him”. (1 John 5:14–15)

Isn’t it wonderful that God has put in you the Holy Spirit who prays perfectly? He knows the heart of God and precisely what you need. And He makes intercession for you because He loves you very much.

The Holy Spirit is like your lawyer or legal counselor. He knows what belongs to you legally. He knows what your blood-bought rights are in Christ. Best of all, He knows exactly how to enforce them in your life!

Beloved, when you pray in tongues, you allow the Holy Spirit to pray perfect prayers through you. He pleads your case before God. He knows where you have gone wrong and what the root of the problem is. He also has the wisdom, solution and power to win your case. With the Holy Spirit on your side, you cannot but come out victorious!

IS IT NECESSARY FOR CHRISTIANS TO SPEAK IN TONGUES?
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The Plan for 2012: "Go and Preach the Gospel” with the "Signs” to prove it.
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The problem is that people who do not know their Greek at all and who also do not read their English Bible Translations at all, connecting the chapters and verses. When Paul wrote “but when the perfect (end: telieos; having attained the end or purpose, complete, perfect) comes, the imperfect will pass away” (1 Cor. 13: 10). He also tells us when this will happen in 1 Cor. 15: 24, where he writes, “"Then comes the end (telos, from the verb teleo: future tense, meaning to bring to an end, finish, goal, to the end or goal), when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father destroying every rule and every authority and power.” The Gifts of the Holy Spirit will not pass away until the Resurrection of all the dead occurs (1 Cor. 15: 12 – 24). The perfect end will not have occurred until the Resurrection from the dead and we go to the New Heaven. This is not very difficult for anybody to understand unless they are in rebellion against God and do not wish to have the Baptism of Jesus which is called “The Baptism of the Holy Spirit” with proof of the “signs following” (Mk. 16: 17 – 18) which confirms our preaching. This also necessitates rewriting or amending what Jesus said to Nicodemus: “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the Kingdom of God” (Jn. 3: 5). They would have to erase “of the Spirit” which they do in fact because when a person has received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, as happened on the Day of Pentecost they were all speaking in tongues”. This is what I experienced yesterday when we saw over 300+ people receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues. All of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit (Rom. 12: 6 – 8 ; 1 Cor. 12: 8 – 10) are still being distributed by the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 12: 11) as they have been done continuously throughout the history of the Christian Church. As one Baptist historian pointed out, the signs, wonders and miracles have been removed from the history of the Church by historians who do not and did not believe in signs, wonders and miracles. When given the opportunity to study at a Seminary which has a excellent library, the truth is found in their books. There has never been a time in history when the Holy Spirit stopped distributing the Gifts of the Holy Spirit just as there has never been a time in history when people have stopped refusing to receive the Holy Spirit and the Gifts of the Holy Spirit (Lk. 5: 38 – 39). This is not too difficult to understand except by people who do not want Jesus to be their Lord.  



 TONGUES IS NOT FOR BELIEVERS?

 NOW WHAT DOES THE BIBLE REALLY SAY ABOUT IT?

 Yes, there are some believers who have never received the Gift of Speaking in other national languages (tongues) and do not have the Gifts of the Holy Spirit. But, this prevents them from having the kind of relationship with Jesus and doing the ministry to which we are all called. There is no doubt that some people hear God speak to them occasionally. But we are supposed to hear Him speak to us everyday. When Jesus said to each of the Seven Churches in the Book of Revelation and commanded each of them, "He who has an ear let him hear what the Spirit says to the Churches" (Rev. 2: 7, 11, 17, 29; 3: 6, 13, 22), He is tell us to listen to the Holy Spirit every day. Hearing occasionally from God is not what He desires.

The Holy Spirit is supposed to speak to us every day. This is what the Greek says in John 16: 26: "he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said and done" every day. Not an occasional time when He can catch our attention. He, the Holy Spirit, is called Counselor (Grk. defense attorney). He is supposed to be able to "guide you into all the truth" every day. Being able to hear from God is not supposed to be once in a while when He can catch our attention. No, all of that changes when we receive the authentic Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the "signs following" because speaking in tongues is God's new communications system. Without the "signs" (Mk. 16: 17 - 18) we are not authentic believers (Greek definition defined in the Greek Lexicon (dictionary). To rely on some teacher who speaks in tongues is not adequate. People who reject what Jesus wants us to have are deceiving themselves.

It is easy for people to dismiss applying the "adding and taking away from the Book of Revelation" which is true. But, there is no dismissing what Paul said to the Corinthian Church who had two groups of people in the church who did not want to accept the Baptism of the Holy Spirit when he wrote "I have applied all this to myself and Apollos for your benefit brethren, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up (full of pride) in favour of one against the other" (1 Cor. 4: 6). This means, in an other way, "don't add or take away from the Scriptures". When a person does this, they appear to be arrogant as if all the work that Jesus has done for us is not necessary, that in some way or another, I can pick and choose what I want out of the Scriptures, like some kind of a spiritual smagasbord.

Rejecting the any of the Gifts of the Holy Spirt, especially the Gift of speaking in national languages (Grk: 1 Cor. 12: 10) is at the least a subconscious or conscious rejection of God's daily communications system so a person does not have to listen to what Jesus or our Heavenly Father wants to say to us every day through the Holy Spirit. This arrogance has led many people away from their "Normal Christian Life". It reminds me of what happened when God led the Israelites out of Egypt and up to Mount Sinai. Remember, they did not want God to speak to them, "Go near, and hear all that the LORD (Yahweh) our God will say; and speak to us all that the LORD (Yahweh) will speak to you; and we will hear and do it" (Deut. 5: 27).

Our God wants to have a personal speaking relationship with us daily which He establishes with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and as described on the Day of Pentecost all 120 believers were filled with the Holy Spirit and had the proof of speaking in new languages. Rejecting, the good Gifts (Lk. 11: 13) of the Holy Spirit demonstrates that people are in rebellion against God's will and they will use any excuse, like the Israelites, so they will not have to listen to Him everyday.

In the Corinthian Church were were three groups of people: believers who were Baptized with the Holy Spirit and had the initial gift of speaking in tongues; unbelievers who were seeking for God; a group of new believers who rejected the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and Gifts of the Holy Spirit. These new believers did not have the Holy Spirit and they rejected the work of the Holy Spirit. The Greek word to describe them is "idiotes" singular, "idiotoi" plural from which we derive the word "idiot" or "idiots" which describes "one without professional knowledge, ignorant and common person" which is the same definition in Greek. These people are what Paul describes when he wrote, "The unspiritual (psychikos) man does not receive the gifts of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually (pneumatikos) discerned" (1 Cor. 2: 14). Unspiritual person is one who does not have the Holy Spirit and who betrays himself to others who do by his/her rejection of the the Holy Spirit and His Gifts (1 Cor. 12: 13; Rom. 12: 6 - 8; 1 Cor. 12: 8 - 10). Such people make their decisions by means of their human spirit/soul (psyche).

 James tells us that "but no man can tame the tongue-- a restless evil, full of deadly poison" (Jas. 3: 8). The only Person who can tame the tongue and give us "self-control" (Gal. 5:23) is the Holy Spirit and that occurs when a person receives the authentic Baptism of the Holy Spirit, as happened on the Day of Pentecost (Acts 2: 4). The operating word is "all" "were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues (properly translated: languages), as the Spirit gave them utterance." The only Person who has ever been born Who did not need to receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit in order to obtain control over His tongue was Jesus. However, He does speak in all languages (tongues).

It is necessary to have all of "the signs following" in order to prove that we have the Baptism of the Holy Spirit since "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Rom. 3: 23). Speaking in "new languages" is what Jesus said (Mk. 16: 17). Paul called it "the gift of other national languages" (1 Cor. 12: 10). Some people try to say that there are two different kinds of tongues languages: one with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit to prove a person has received the Holy Spirit and a second which they call the Gift of Tongues. I did some research about this and there is no such distinction make in the New Testament. This distinction has been made by people who have "made up some glibberish which they claimed was tongues received only with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit but they did not have the Gift of Tongues. NO! NO! NO! There is only one kind of tongues or languages that we receive as initial evidence of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and that language is to be used privately in prayer as well as publicly giving messages to the church which must be interpreted by someone who has the Gift of Interpretation of tongues.

Faking tongues does not allow for changing the truth of the New Testament. Using counterfeit made up tongues does not ignore the truth. Many times I have had to tell people that what they were saying was not a language and prayed with them so they did receive a legitimate tongues language which was interpreted by someone who had the Gift of Interpretation or who spoke the languges normally. The languages that are given are real legitimate languages that are spoken in the world today or in the past. When used according to Paul's instructions privately (Eph. 6: 18; 1 Cor. 14: 5) and publicly with the "Gift of Intepretation of Tongues" they will lead sinners to repentance. Through interpretation of tongues, the Holy Spirit can give praise to God, guidance to peole, call us to repentance, give prophecy and any information that is required to help believers serve Jesus Christ effectively. Interpetation of tongues is for the unbelievers while prophecy is for believers.

I do not like using the word "tongues" which is the old English word for languages because it causes people to think that what the Holy Spirit is giving us is something that is not a real language. People try to give this kind of an explanation when they read 1 Cor. 13: 1 where Paul writes, "If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisey gong or a clanging cymbal", they think that angels speak in languages differently than we do, which is not true at all. No place in either the Old Testament or New Testament is there any place where angels spoke anything but languages that people speak. That's the reason why Paul says "tongues of men and angels". In Greek this means that both men and angels speak the same languages: that's what the "and" means. When people have received the authentic Baptism of the Holy Spirit demonstrated by speaking in a language they have never learned, they not only can give messages in the language as guided by the Holy Spirit which will and can be interpreted by people who either speak the language or who have the Gift of Interpretation of tongues. The Gift of other national languages also brings healing to the person who prays and speaks in tongues. This is what Paul meant when he wrote, "He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself" (1 Cor. 14: 4) without an interpretation of tongues, he was not saying that it was wrong to do so but that the person was bringing healing to himself. This is in contrast to the rest of the sentence in which, if there is no interpretation of tongues, prophecy is for the believers.

Anybody who thinks that it is not necessary to "speak in tongues", the language with which the Holy Spirit gives us "self-control" over what we say and speak and give testimony about Jesus and what He has done for us, is absolutely wrong and deceptive. Paul asks some rhetorical questions for which he gives the answers, among which is this one, "Do all speak in tongues?" In Greek, he gives the answer before the question which in Greek Grammar is correct: "No! Do all speak in tongues (languages)? (1 Cor. 12: 30)" He says that not everybody can speak in tongues because and if they have not received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. He goes on to identify two groups of people in the Corinthian Church and which are found in all or most churches. There were "outsiders" (RSV) "unlearned" (KJV) and "unbelievers" (1 Cor. 14: 23) both of whom did not want to receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

The first group "unlearned" is a group of uneducated or uninformed new believers (singular: idiotos; plural: idiotai) who resisted the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and the necessity to speak in tongues or to accept any of the other Gifts of the Holy Spirit that comes with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit (Rom. 12: 6 - 8; 1 Cor. 15: 8 - 10). You will notice that it is from this word that we derive the word "idiot" or "idiots" which refers to people who did not have a full understanding of the Gospel and the working of the Holy Spirit in their lives that was necessary to have the normal Christian Life but acted as if they knew everything and thought that they could pick and choose what they wanted to accept from the New Testament Covenant usually trying to explain away the necessary works of the Holy Spirit but telling people that God stopped doing what is written in different chapters of the Bible. They are what I call "spiritual idiots" who for the sake of their traditions (denominations) make void the word of God ( Matt. 15: 6; Mk. 7: 13).

I asked a couple who came for prayer at the Prayer Palace a few years ago, "What would you like to have prayer for?" The husband answered, "My wife would like to receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues." I asked him, "Have you received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues?" He answered, "No, but I don't need that." I asked him, "Are you telling me that you have perfect control over your tongue whenever you speak and talk?" He replied, "Yes!" I asked his wife, "Is that true?" She answered, "Only in the widest stretch of his imagination." I asked him, "Would you like to receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues too?" He smiled and said, "Yes." They prayed with me as I laid hands on them and both received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and fell to the floor speaking in tongues.

There is nobody who does not need to receive Salvation and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues as well as the other three "signs following" (Mk. 16: 17 - 18) because these signs confirm our preaching and teaching and are necessary in order for them to be effective witnesses and do ministry for Jesus Christ. After all, remember that Jesus told us, "God shows no partiality' (Rom. 2: 11). That means that everybody needs everything that is included in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. And, Peter, explaining to the Gentiles in Cornelius' house, explained, "Truly I perceive that God shows no partiality, but in every nation any one who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to Him" (Acts 10: 34). The result was that "Peter was amazed "because the Gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on the Gentiles. For they heard them speaking in tongues and extolling God. Then Peter declared, 'Can anyone forbid water for baptizing these people who received the Holy Spirit just as we have (Acts 10: 46 - 48)?"

There are too many people who want to find excuses for not receiving the authentic Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues: like its not for everybody or God stopped the Baptism of the Holy Spirit many centuries ago or other excuses not to serve Jesus. These people do not know the history of the church of Jesus Christ. Without it, Jesus cannot be Lord over our lives. But, of course, there are many people who just want Jesus to be their Savior and no their Lord so they can be what I call "godly people"but are not "spiritual (Holy Spirit filled) people". And, there are people who want to protect their family and friends from receiving the Holy Spirit for fear that the Holy Spirit might lead them to do something that would be embarrassing to them, like being effective witnesses.

 Regarding 1 Cor. 12: 29 - 30, not all people in a church can receive these gifts because of one overlooked fact: Not all people in a church have received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Without the Holy Spirit nobody can receive any of the gifts of the Holy Spirit (Rom. 12: 8 - 10; 1 Cor. 12: 10 - 12) nor can they be allowed to be a part of the 5-Fold Ministry (Eph. 4: 11) which is a different kind of gifting (domata). It is the arrogance of people and clergy who mistakenly or falsely tell people that they have received the Holy Spirit when they received salvation which in the Book of Acts only occurred in the house of Cornelius (Acts 10: 44 - 48). Paul mentions the two groups in the Corinthian Church who did not receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and therefore could not receive the Gifts and ministries that Paul mentioned (1 Cor. 12: 29 - 30). There were the unbelievers (apistos; apistoi) and outsiders or unlearned, unknowledgeable new believers (idiotes; idiotai) (1 Cor. 14: 23f) who by their foolish wisdom rejected the Gifts of the Holy Spirit. The result was that we have the same problem today in churches where people arrogantly refuse the Holy Spirit and therefore they cannot have the Gifts of the Holy Spirit. The proof of whether a believer has received the Holy Spirit is, of course, as Jesus said, "These signs will follow those who believe" (Mk. 16: 17 - 18; 20). No signs of the Holy Spirit, no Holy Spirit. They signs of "authenticity". Without them, not every body can receive the Gifts of the Holy Spirit nor can they be given the 5-fold Ministry.

I hope this is helpful. Please feel free to pass it on to whomever.

 Yours in Jesus' Name, Gordon Williams
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 The Modern Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit

 Hi Walter:

Do you not know about John MacArthur? He is identifying people who are false apostles, teachers and prophets and who are obviously not doing the work of the Holy Spirit. He is correct on the one hand but on the other hand, he blasphemes the Holy Spirit by denying that the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the "Signs Following" and the "Gifts of the Holy Spirit" are for today. And, attributes them to to the devil or demons. He, himself, blasphemes the Holy Spirit because he cannot identify the legitimate works of the Holy Spirit. He is a cessationist who believes that the miraculous work of the Holy Spirit stopped with the first apostles. He is widely known to be against the legitimate works of the Holy Spirit. Many years ago, a man who did research for MacArthur, put my first report on the Toronto-so-called blessing on his web page. He was trying to use my report to substantiate the wrongs in the TACF even though he did not agree with me about the Holy Spirit. His message, which I listened to, is about character building and correcting other people's ideas about the Doctrine of the Trinity. If you listen to it carefullly, he never refers to the authentic New Testament miraculous works of the Holy Spirit. He does not have a healing ministry. He is a modern-day Pharisee of whom Jesus described when he said, "You are wrong because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God" (Matt. 22: 29). I was given a collection of his books (3 box full) a couple of years ago but he just doesn't get it. And, of course, he doesn't know or understand the Holy Spirit and His works. He is a model-evangelical who has never received the Holy Spirit and operates on a human understanding. He is best described by Paul, who wrote, "The unspiritual man (psychikos) does not receive the gifts (things) of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually (pneuamtikos) discerned" (1 Cor. 2: 14). I would be very careful about referring people to him. As the TACF is wrong on the one side, he is equally wrong on the other side. The truth is in the center with the New Testament which neither side wants to accept and so they both "blaspheme against the Holy Spirit".

Gordon Williams

 YES THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT ARE FOR THE PROFIT OF ALL MEANS ALL CAN HAVE THEM
1COR 12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: 12:8 for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, 12:9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit, 12:10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. 12:11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.
OF COURSE UNBELIEVERS NEVER TALK ABOUT THE FACT But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all:
THE FOOLS TALK ABOUT 12:29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles? 12:30 Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret?
THEY PURPOSELY IGNORE PAUL'S COMMAND
12:31 But earnestly desire the best gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way.
14:1 Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy. 14:2 For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries. 14:3 But he who prophesies speaks edification and exhortation and comfort to men. 14:4 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. 14:5 I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied; for he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless indeed he interprets, that the church may receive edification.
SO HOW MANY SO CALLED CHRISTIANS EARNESTLY DESIRE THE BEST GIFTS AND PURSUE LOVE? VERY FEW? WHY? BECAUSE THEY ARE UNBELIEVERS NOT BELIEVERS!
Praying in tongues is a way to release the supernatural power of God. When we pray in the spirit, or pray in tongues, we speak the mysteries of God and pray the perfect will of God. It is through praying in our heavenly language that the Holy Spirit is able to make intercession for us in ways that go beyond our natural understanding. Five ways we can withdraw spiritual resources from our spirits:
By renewing our minds with the Word.
By using our faith.
By acknowledging all the supernatural resources we have within our spirits.
By praying in the Spirit.
When we pray in the Spirit, our spirits are praying, but our minds are unproductive (1 Corinthians 14:14-15, AMP).
The early Christians started praying in tongues when the Holy Spirit came upon them on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:4; Acts 10:46).
They spoke in foreign languages they didn’t know (Acts 2:6-11).
Foreigners who heard these Christians praying understood their own dialects as they were spoken by the Christians, and they heard these people speak about the mighty works of God.
Early Believers also received power by the laying on of hands (Acts 19:6, 7; Acts 8:18).
Jesus commissioned all Believers to operate in the same power He did. This was also demonstrated by the early Believers (Mark 16:15-18).
Benefits of praying in the Spirit:
When we pray in the Spirit, we renew our strength (1 Corinthians 14:4).
Praying in the Spirit helps us make spiritual progress (Jude 1:20).
Earnest, heartfelt prayer draws power out of us (James 5:16, AMP).
When we pray in the Spirit, we pray effectively for the unknown.
The Holy Spirit Himself intercedes for us when we pray in the Spirit (Romans 8:26).
When we pray in the Spirit, we pray the will of God. The Holy Spirit makes everything work out for our good (Romans 8:27-28).
When we pray in the Spirit, we draw from the supernatural resources within our spirits (Philippians 1:19, 20).
There is supernatural wisdom on the inside of us. However, we must know how to draw it out (Proverbs 20:5; Proverbs 18:4; Proverbs 10:11).
When we speak in tongues, we speak mysteries (1 Corinthians 14:2).
Praying in the Spirit ushers us into the supernatural realm where other gifts begin to manifest.
Praying in the Spirit quickens, or gives life to, our mortal bodies (Romans 8:11).
Paul spent a significant amount of time praying in the Spirit (1 Corinthians 14:18).
He operated in divine power; He prayed in tongues by the grace of God (1 Corinthians 15:9, 10).
Jesus prayed in the Spirit before demonstrating tremendous power.
He prayed in an unknown language before raising a girl from the dead (Mark 5:41).
He spoke in an unknown language while on the cross (Mark 15:34, 35).
Jesus spoke in an unknown language before healing a man who was deaf and had a speech impediment (Mark 7:33, 34).
Scripture References:
  • 1 Corinthians 14:2-18, AMP
  • Acts 2:4-11
  • Acts 10:46
  • Acts 19:6,7
  • Acts 8:18 Jude 1:20
  • James 5:16, AMP
  • Romans 8:11, 26, 28
  • Mark 16:15-18
  • Philippians 1:19, 20
  • Proverbs 20:5
  • Proverbs 18:4
  • Proverbs 10:11
  • 1 Corinthians 15:9, 10
  • Mark 5:41
  • Mark 14:34, 35
  • Mark 7:33, 34

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